Welcome to the Security Round Table for September, where our panel of passionate security and privacy professionals considers the question: Do we have privacy anymore?
Our Panel
Talking points
- Definition of privacy
- How does privacy in the 21st century differ from privacy in the 20th century and before?
- How have the attitudes of government and the populace changed privacy in the last decade?
- Does the average end user understand privacy?
- Online databases
- What can we do today and can we recover the privacy we’ve lost (or never had)?
Coming in October
In October we will be exploring the role/value of end-user awareness with a panel of differing opinions. If you are responsible for creating an end-user awareness program – this is an episode you will not want to miss!
As an added bonus, we’re going to start using Talk Shoe for our monthly SRT episodes – and after the show taping, Security Catalyst Community (http://www.securitycatalyst.org) members will have the option to participate in a live Q&A session.
If you have ideas for topics or want to be invited to serve on one of our panels, contact me directly at securitycatalyst@gmail.com
SRT - September - Do we have privacy anymore? [63:31m]:
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posted by SecurityCatalyst at 10:02 pm
The August Security Round Table podcast assembled an expert panel to explore the keys to a successful security career - and how you can find the perfect job for you. We recorded this discussion on Tuesday, August 14th 2007 and present it now for your listening pleasure.
Your esteemed panel
Michael Santarcangelo | http://www.securitycatalyst.com/ & http://www.intothebreach.com/
Martin McKeay | http://www.mckeay.net/
Mike Murray | http://episteme.ca/ & http://www.forgettheparachute.com/
Ron Vereggen | http://www.rapidsuccesscoach.com/
Daniel Sweet | http://fracat.com/
Questions or Comments?
If you have questions or comments for our panelists, please send an email to question [SHIFT-2] securityroundtable [DOT] com and we’ll work to answer it - either in the Security Catalyst Community forums (http://community.securitycatalyst.com/forums/index.php) , or in an upcoming episode.
Coming up on future Security Round Table Episodes
We’ll be exploring and debating..
- Security Fundamentals
- Do we have privacy anymore?
- Security ROI: Fact or Fiction
Do you want to participate or listen live?
We’re also exploring the ability to host the SRT on a regular basis so that SCC members can listen live - and then participate in a private chat right after the recording. I’m exploring some different options, but if you have an idea or suggestion - please let me know by sending a message to me – securitycatalyst [SHIFT-2] gmail.com
SRT August 2007 [52:52m]:
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posted by SecurityCatalyst at 8:27 am
We’re back! Dan York, Martin McKeay and Michael Santarcangelo came together to revitalize the SRT effort and concept. First up - Dan York led an effort to research and put together a program on OpenID. In this episode, we explore the question, “what is open ID and should we care?”- Dan York, Blue Box: The VoIP Security Podcast- Martin McKey: The Network Security Podcast- Michael Santarcangelo: The Security CatalystThese show notes are going to be swamped with links and information about OpenID. A HUGE thank you to Dan York for an amazing effort, here. This is actually the single best collection of OpenID links I’ve yet to see.If you feel like discussing OpenID (or looking to find some positive and passionate security professionals), come discuss this in the Security Catalyst Community: http://community.securitycatalyst.com/forums/index.phpHere is the OpenID thread: http://community.securitycatalyst.com/forums/index.php/topic,46.0.htmlNOTE - found another recent (Dec 2006) podcast about OpenID:- blog entry - http://herestomwiththeweather.blogspot.com/2006/12/openid-podcast.html (interesting notes about moving a site over to OpenID)- MP3 - http://www.stuffopolis.com/interactive/openid.mp3- Outline - http://www.stuffopolis.com/interactive/openid_talk.txt
Main focus of the show -
what is OpenID and why should you care?
Why is OpenID in the news right now?
Microsoft Announcement at RSA generated news - announced by Bill Gates in keynote:
Excellent summary - “Five Key Takeaways from Microsoft, OpenID Announcement“Other recent news - AOL support OpenID: http://journals.aol.com/panzerjohn/abstractioneer/entries/2007/02/15/aol-and-openid-where-we-are/1406It also appears that AOL enabled OpenID support for all 63 million AIM users! - http://chimprawk.blogspot.com/2007/02/is.html
What is OpenID? What problem is it trying to solve?
Main OpenID website - http://www.openid.net/Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenIDCommunity marketing - http://iwantmyopenid.org/illustrated overviews:
OpenID specification- http://openid.net/specs.bmlZDNet: “The Case for OpenID” - http://blogs.zdnet.com/digitalID/?p=78
How does it work?
See http://openid.net/about.bmlList of presentations at http://openid.net/presentations.bmlOpenID screencast - http://simonwillison.net/2006/openid-screencast/From http://www.openidenabled.com/openid/about-openidGood description of process (from Microsoft’s Kim Cameron ): An interaction starts with the user telling the RP (relying party) what her URL is (1). The RP consults the URL content to determine where the user’s IP is located (not shown). Then it redirects the user to her IP (identity provider) to pick up an authentication token, as shown in (2) and (3). To do the authentication, the IP has to be sure that it’s the user who is making the request. So it presents her with an authentication screen, typically asking for a username and password in (4). If they are entered correctly, the IP mints a token to send to the RP as shown in (5) and (6). If the IP and RP already know each other, this is the end of the authentication part of the protocol. If not, the back channel is used as well.More details:
- You register with a Identity provider (IdP or “i-broker”). Some are commercial, some are free. Examples:
You can also set up your own OpenID server/service
Note that you can use your own URL with an OpenID service: http://www.openidenabled.com/openid/use-your-own-url-as-an-openid
When you now go to a website, you can login with your OpenID. Sites that can use OpenID:
You are required to then login to your OpenID provider’s site (if you have not already done so)
You are logged into the site
So for a blog comment, for instance, instead of typing in your username, password, etc., you could just use your OpenID.More sites will be using it soon… note the bounty for OpenID in open source projects: http://iwantmyopenid.org/bounty
Security issues - phishing
Open option for Firefox: PHOff - http://chile.ootao.com/phoff/Other commentary on the phishing issue:
Security issues - single point-of-failure
- So what happens if your Identity provider goes away? Or you decide you want to stop trusting them?
- Two solutions:
- Have multiple OpenIDs - no reason you can’t.
- Use a domain that you own as your OpenID and delegate back to a IdP - just by adding two lines of HTML code to that website - see http://simonwillison.net/2006/Dec/19/openid/
- This second solution is probably best because you retain control. In first solution, what happens to all those accounts you created with the ID that you no longer trust.
Future of OpenID
Links for more research:
Dan’s del.icio.us links - http://del.icio.us/dyork/openidPlanet OpenID (splice of blogs) - http://planet.openid.net/OpenID Wiki - http://openid.net/wiki/index.php/Main_PageMore del.icio.us links - http://del.icio.us/keepthebyte/openid and http://del.icio.us/tag/openidConverting your site to OpenID: http://kveton.com/blog/2006/11/28/converting-your-site-to-openid/emphemeral profiles - do some people really want identity anyway? http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2007/01/01/ephemeral_profi.html and http://vquill.com/2007/01/throwaway-identities.htmlKim Cameron’s lengthy paper on digital identity - see the “Laws of Identity” section: http://www.identityblog.com/?page_id=352/
SRT - February 2007 - OpenID [42:32m]:
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posted by SecurityCatalyst at 3:48 pm
Finally, the sixth episode of the Security Round Table! Earlier this month we had the opportunity to talk with Krishna Kurapati, Chief Technology Officer of Sipera Systems.
We know that Intstant Messaging is in the workspace and is increasingly harder to block. Should it be blocked, how can it be blocked or should it become part of the corporate infrastructure, just like voice and email? And more importantly, what are the dangers of Instant Messanging?
Thanks once more to Krishna Kurapati for joining us on the conference call. He answered an email sent out by Dan York to the VOIP Security mailing list with very short notice.
Present on this episode:
Larry Pesce | Pauldotcom Security Weekly
Alan Shimel | SSAATY (Still Secure After All These Years)
Martin McKeay | Network Security Podcast
And this will be the last time I ever give Michael a hard time for taking a couple of weeks to post a podcast. - Martin
posted by Martin McKeay at 3:25 pm
Join us for our fifth exciting episode of the Security Round Table. Our special guest (and now newest member) is Dan York from: Blue Box: The VoIP Security Podcast. In this episode, we look at the general overview of VoIP technologies and the security risks - as well as the myths.
Dan is a true expert and instructor on this topic - and school was definitely in for the SRT team!
Joining in on this episode:
Paul Asadorian | Pauldotcom Security Weekly
Martin McKeay | Network Security Podcast
Larry Pesce | Pauldotcom Security Weekly
Michael Santarcangelo | The Security Catalyst
Alan Shimel | SSAATY (Still Secure After All These Years)
Dan York | Blue Box: The VoIP Security Podcast
SRT Episode 5 [57:27m]:
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posted by SecurityCatalyst at 11:27 pm
How many times have you wondered what you would do if you find out your company wasn’t protecting information as they promised? What if you were a consultant or contractor?
Is there a right way to report on privacy and security breaches?
Join the Security Round Table with Special Guest Randal Schwartz to discuss this important issue.
On this episode:
Larry Pesce | Pauldotcom Security Weekly | Haxor the Matrix
Martin McKeay | Network Security Blog & Podcast
Michael Santarcangelo | The Security Catalyst
Randal Schwartz | Stonehenge | Legal Information: Friends of Randal Schwartz
Note: we did reach some interesting conclusions and directions for future advancement. Continue the discussion at the Security Catalyst Community (currently open to trusted catalysts until October 15, 2006 when it becomes available to the entire community).
posted by SecurityCatalyst at 12:14 pm
Join me while I listen to a spirited discussion between Alan Shimel, Richard Stiennon, Mike Rothman and Chris Hoff about the relative merits and downfalls of Network Access (or Admission) Control. This all started a couple of weeks ago when Richard and Alan started a little disagreement between them about NAC on their blogs. Chris and Mike decided they needed to throw some fuel on fire, which generally seems to be their way. After reading their back and forth, I invited them to join me on a Skype call where they could each explain their positions and how the other bloggers were wrong. While this is a fairly serious security topic, as NAC seems to be one of the technologies everyone is talking about, we took the whole argument in fairly light-hearted manner.
I hope you enjoy listening to the podcast as much as we enjoyed recording it. Thanks again to Richard to saving my bacon when I had technical problems with my recording software. And while I was part of the podcast, I was mostly just an innocent observer. I think I learned more that way.
-Martin McKeay
SRT-080706-NAC [41:30m]:
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posted by Martin McKeay at 6:35 pm
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I am excited to present to you the SRT’s third episode. The goal of these podcasts is simple: bring together podcasters and occassional guests to discuss important security topics. This episode had some great (read: diverse) representation as we tackled the issue of who should be responsible for vulnerable code and “good practices” around notification, patching and the like.
This podcast went a bit longer than planned, and I suspect we could have kept talking all night long! I personally learned quite a bit and enjoyed the opportunity to explore some of these issues and hear different perspectives. I hope you enjoy it too!
Joining us on this effort was:
Martin McKeay (The Network Security Podcast)
Paul Asadoorian (Pauldotcom Security Weekly)
Jamal Khan (Hdaar Security Radio)
Alan Shimel (Still Secure, After All These Years)
Ron Woerner (Security Catalyst Contributor)
Ideas? Comments? Suggestions? securitycatalyst@gmail.com
Michael (The Security Catalyst)
posted by SecurityCatalyst at 4:12 pm
Join Michael Santarcangelo of the Security Catalyst podcast, Martin McKeay of the Network Security Podcast and special Guest Alan Shimel from the Still Secure Podcast. We shared an energetic and insightful discussion about the recent reports of laptop theft leading to identity breach (or the possibility of it) and then talked about privacy and breaches in the EU.
posted by SecurityCatalyst at 11:48 pm
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After listening to our first podcast, Robert Elam of elamb.org sent me a link to ten disposable email services. I’ve never tried any of these services, so please please give us some feedback if you’ve used them before. I think I’ll stick with manipulating my sendmail configuraton and using the ‘name’+'whateverIwant’@gmail.com trick, but these are worth using if you don’t have your own mail server.
Thanks Robert.
Martin (nsp_AT_mckeay.net)
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posted by Martin McKeay at 12:28 am
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from the “No privacy - ‘get over it!’ camp” - http://www.securitywarrior.org