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		<title>Security Roundtable for July 2008: Battling Botnets with Botnets</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The July discussion started by exploring the concept of battling botnets with botnets. The genesis of the conversation was the paper, &#8220;Phalanx: Withstanding Multimillion-node Botnet,&#8221; written by Colin Dixon, Arvind Krishnamurthy and Tom Anderson. This came around the time buzz was being generated around the entire concept of battling botnets with botnets, and we decided to [...]]]></description>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The July discussion started by exploring the concept of battling <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botnet" target="_blank">botnets</a> with botnets. The genesis of the conversation was the paper, &#8220;Phalanx: Withstanding Multimillion-node Botnet,&#8221; written by Colin Dixon, Arvind Krishnamurthy and Tom Anderson. This came around the time buzz was being generated around the entire concept of battling botnets with botnets, and we decided to explore it with an open discussion that included ethics and unintended consequences.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">As it turns out &#8211; the discussion was that, and more. Much more. This discussion brought forth the value of the Security Roundtable – since we left with more questions than when we started. This is good! When listening to the discussion, perhaps it will stimulate even more questions!</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks to the panel:</p>
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<li>Colin Dixon | <a href="http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/ckd/">http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/ckd/</a></li>
<li>Andrew Hay | <a href="http://www.andrewhay.ca/">http://www.andrewhay.ca/</a></li>
<li>Martin McKeay | <a href="http://www.mckeay.net">www.mckeay.net</a></li>
<li>Michael Santarcangelo | <a href="http://www.securitycatalyst.com">www.securitycatalyst.com</a> &amp; <a href="http://www.intothebreach.com">www.intothebreach.com</a></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The discussion ran a bit longer than we alloted, yet even on our review listen proved worth every minute. We raised some interesting questions and look forward to sharing the conversation with you. This is only the beginning and we invite you to share your ideas, insights and feedback in the Security Catalyst Community. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Additional Links Mentioned</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/ckd/">http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/ckd/ &#8211;&gt; you can download the paper here</a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.icir.org/vern/papers/cdc-usenix-sec02/">http://www.icir.org/vern/papers/cdc-usenix-sec02/</a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Joining the conversation in the Security Catalyst Community</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Share your ideas in the <a href="http://www.securitycatalyst.org/forums/index.php" target="_blank">Security Catalyst Community</a>. Your participation is your currency (means no charge to join) &#8211; the more you contribute the more you learn and the more valuable the community becomes to everyone (so dive in and share). If you have not yet registered, please remember to use <strong>firstname.lastname</strong> as the standard.</p>
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		<itunes:summary>The July discussion started by exploring the concept of battling botnets with botnets. The genesis of the conversation was the paper, "Phalanx: Withstanding Multimillion-node Botnet," written bynbsp;Colin Dixon, Arvind Krishnamurthy and Tom Anderson. This came around the time buzz was being generated around the entire concept of battling botnets with botnets, and we decided to explore it with an open discussion that included ethics and unintended consequences.
As it turns out - the discussion was that, and more. Much more.nbsp;This discussion brought forth the value of the Security Roundtable ndash; since we left with more questions than when we started. This is good! When listening to the discussion, perhaps it will stimulate even more questions!
nbsp;
Thanks to the panel:
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	Colin Dixon #124;nbsp;http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/ckd/
	Andrew Hay #124;nbsp;http://www.andrewhay.ca/
	Martin McKeay #124;nbsp;www.mckeay.net
	Michael Santarcangelo #124;nbsp;www.securitycatalyst.comnbsp;#38;nbsp;www.intothebreach.com

The discussion ran a bit longer than we alloted, yet even on our review listen proved worth every minute. We raised some interesting questions and look forward to sharing the conversation with you. This is only the beginning and we invite you to share your ideas, insights and feedback in the Security Catalyst Community.nbsp;
Additional Links Mentioned
http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/ckd/ --#62; you can download the paper here
http://www.icir.org/vern/papers/cdc-usenix-sec02/
nbsp;
Joining the conversation in the Security Catalyst Community
Share your ideas in the Security Catalyst Community.nbsp;Your participation is your currency (means no charge to join) - the more you contribute the more you learn and the more valuable the community becomes to everyone (so dive in and share). If you have not yet registered, please remember to usenbsp;firstname.lastnamenbsp;as the standard.
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		<title>Security Roundtable for June 2008: Clarion Call of the Jericho Forum</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you believe the Jericho Forum has called for the end to firewalls, then you need to stop what you&#8217;re doing and take a listen to this month&#8217;s Security Roundtable. After attending an interesting discussion during RSA, Martin and I invited the Jericho Forum to join us at the roundtable to talk more about what [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you believe the Jericho Forum has called for the end to firewalls, then you need to stop what you&#8217;re doing and take a listen to this month&#8217;s Security Roundtable.</p>
<p>After attending an interesting discussion during RSA, Martin and I invited the Jericho Forum to join us at the roundtable to talk more about what Jericho Forum is, an what it does. We learned a lot and share the discussion with you&#8230;</p>
<p>Joining us on the program:</p>
<ul>
<li>Michael Santarcangelo &#8211; <a href="http://www.securitycatalyst.com/blog/">The Security Catalyst</a> and author of <a href="http://www.intothebreach.com/">Into the Breach</a></li>
<li>Martin McKeay &#8211; Host of the <a href="http://www.mckeay.net/">Network Security Podcast</a> and Captain Privacy</li>
<li><a href="http://rationalsecurity.typepad.com/">Chris Hoff</a> &#8211; Luminary and Jogger</li>
<li>Paul Simmonds (bio below) &#8211; Co-Founder Jericho Forum</li>
<li>Shane Buckley (bio below) &#8211; CEO <a href="http://www.rohati.com/">Rohati Systems</a></li>
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<p>Learn more about Jericho Forum: <a href="http://www.opengroup.org/jericho/">http://www.opengroup.org/jericho/</a></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: Tahoma;"><strong><span style="font-size: x-small;">Paul Simmonds, Co-founder and board of management Jericho Forum  &amp; former CISO, ICI</span></strong><strong><br />
</strong></span>Until May 2008 Paul Simmonds was the CISO at ICI (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" title="http://www.ici.com" href="BLOCKED::http://www.ici.com">www.ici.com</a>). Paul’s varied career has included Electronic counter-measures, Theatre Lighting, North Sea Oil control systems, JET (Nuclear Fusion Research) and commercial radio. Prior to joining ICI in 2001 he was Head of Information Security with a high security web hosting company and before that spent seven years with Motorola, as global information security manager. </p>
<p>Paul was awarded European Chief Security Officer of the year at the 2005 SC Magazine Awards and is listed in both the 2004 &amp; 2005 global top 50 most powerful people in networking by the US publication Network World.  Paul sits on the management board of the Jericho Forum and the Executive Advisory Board of ISSA UK. He also is a British Canoe Union Level 3 Kayak Coach.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span lang="EN-IE">Shane Buckley, President &amp; CEO, Rohati Systems, Inc.</span></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span lang="EN-IE"><span style="font-weight: normal;">Shane Buckley is the President and Chief Executive Officer at Rohati Systems, Inc. Buckley comes to Rohati with more than 20 years of global executive and general management expertise, having held senior executive positions in the United States, Europe, the Middle East and Asia-Pacific.</span></span></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Before taking the helm at Rohati, Buckley served as Chief Operating Officer at Nevis Networks, Inc. a leader in network access control. Previously, he was Vice President of Worldwide Enterprises for Juniper Networks. Prior to that, he served as the International President of Peribit Networks, the leader in Network Optimization. Juniper Networks purchased Peribit in June 2005 for $380M. Before Peribit, Buckley served as Chief Executive Officer of Conduit Software, a provider of Directory Assistance and Wireless Applications solutions. Previously, he was Vice President, EMEA at 3Com. In this role, he managed a $2.2 billion business unit and was responsible for 3Com’s distribution strategy, OEM partnerships and reseller channels. Buckley also chaired 3Com’s Global Distribution Council, was a member of the company’s worldwide OEM steering team, and served as 3Com’s head of operations for the Asia-Pacific Region based in Hong Kong and Tokyo.<span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Buckley is a frequent speaker at high-level industry trade shows and events such as Gitex, CeBIT and The Wall Street Journal Europe conference. He has also contributed to a number of magazines and news programs including MSNBC, SABC and Middle East Business news. He holds an engineering degree from the Cork Institute of Technology in Ireland.</p>
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		<itunes:summary>If you believe the Jericho Forum has called for the end to firewalls, then you need to stop what you're doing and take a listen to this month's Security Roundtable.

After attending an interesting discussion during RSA, Martin and I invited the Jericho Forum to join us at the roundtable to talk more about what Jericho Forum is, an what it does. We learned a lot and share the discussion with you...

Joining us on the program:

	Michael Santarcangelo - The Security Catalyst and author of Into the Breach
	Martin McKeay - Host of the Network Security Podcast and Captain Privacy
	Chris Hoff - Luminary and Jogger
	Paul Simmonds (bio below) - Co-Founder Jericho Forum
	Shane Buckley (bio below) - CEO Rohati Systems

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Learn more about Jericho Forum:nbsp;http://www.opengroup.org/jericho/

nbsp;

nbsp;

Paul Simmonds, Co-founder and board of management Jericho Forumnbsp; #38; former CISO, ICI
Until May 2008 Paul Simmonds was the CISO at ICI (www.ici.com). Paulrsquo;s varied career has included Electronic counter-measures, Theatre Lighting, North Sea Oil control systems, JET (Nuclear Fusion Research) and commercial radio.nbsp;Prior to joining ICI in 2001 he was Head of Information Security with a high security web hosting company and before that spent seven years with Motorola, as global information security manager.nbsp;

Paul was awarded European Chief Security Officer of the year at the 2005 SC Magazine Awards and is listed in both the 2004 #38; 2005 global top 50 most powerful people in networking by the US publication Network World. nbsp;Paul sits on the management board of the Jericho Forum and the Executive Advisory Board of ISSA UK. He also is a British Canoe Union Level 3 Kayak Coach.
Shane Buckley, President #38; CEO, Rohati Systems, Inc.
Shane Buckley is the President and Chief Executive Officer at Rohati Systems, Inc. Buckley comes to Rohati with more than 20 years of global executive and general management expertise, having held senior executive positions in the United States, Europe, the Middle East and Asia-Pacific.
nbsp;
Before taking the helm at Rohati, Buckley served as Chief Operating Officer at Nevis Networks, Inc. a leader in network access control. Previously, he was Vice President of Worldwide Enterprises for Juniper Networks. Prior to that, he served as the International President of Peribit Networks, the leader in Network Optimization. Juniper Networks purchased Peribit in June 2005 for $380M. Before Peribit, Buckley served as Chief Executive Officer of Conduit Software, a provider of Directory Assistance and Wireless Applications solutions. Previously, he was Vice President, EMEA at 3Com. In this role, he managed a $2.2 billion business unit and was responsible for 3Comrsquo;s distribution strategy, OEM partnerships and reseller channels. Buckley also chaired 3Comrsquo;s Global Distribution Council, was a member of the companyrsquo;s worldwide OEM steering team, and served as 3Comrsquo;s head of operations for the Asia-Pacific Region based in Hong Kong and Tokyo.nbsp;
nbsp;
Buckley is a frequent speaker at high-level industry trade shows and events such as Gitex, CeBIT and The Wall Street Journal Europe conference. He has also contributed to a number of magazines and news programs including MSNBC, SABC and Middle East Business news. He holds an engineering degree from the Cork Institute of Technology in Ireland.</itunes:summary>
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